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Original source : http://islamqa.info/en/12295

Question :

Can you please explain the conditions of Laa ilaaha ill-Allaah (knowledge, certainty, etc), and tell us the rulings on one who does not attain them and one who is ignorant of the meaning of Laa ilaaha ill-Allaah?

Answer :

Praise be to Allaah.

The conditions of Laa ilaaha ill-Allaah. Shaykh Haafiz al-Hukmi said in his poem Sullam al-Wusool :

“Knowledge, certainty, submission and following. So listen to what I say.

Truthfulness, sincerity and love. May Allaah help you to do that which He loves.”

 The first condition is knowledge, in the sense of negating what is negated in the Shahaadah and affirming what is affirmed therein – as opposed to being ignorant of that.

 Allaah says (interpretation of the meanings):

 “So know (O Muhammad) that Laa ilaaha ill-Allaah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allaah)…”[Muhammad 47:19]

 “except for those who bear witness to the truth knowingly” –  i.e., that there is no god except Allaah (laa ilaaha ill-Allaah) – “and they know” – in their hearts the meaning of the words that they utter with their lips. [al-Zukhruf 43:86]

 It is narrated in al-Saheeh from ‘Uthmaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever dies knowing that there is no god except Allaah will enter Paradise.”

 The second condition is certainty, in the sense that the one who says these words is absolutely certain of their meaning. Faith is not sufficient unless it is based on certain knowledge with no element of speculation, let alone doubt. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Only those are the believers who have believed in Allaah and His Messenger, and afterward doubt not but strive with their wealth and their lives for the Cause of Allaah. Those! They are the truthful”[al-Hujuraat 49:15]

The sincerity of their faith in Allaah and His Messenger is conditional upon there being no element of doubt therein, As for the doubter, he is one of the hypocrites. In al-Saheeh it is narrated that Abu Hurayrah said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Bear witness that there is no god except Allaah and that I am the Messenger of Allaah, for no person meets Allaah with these two, not doubting in them, but he will enter Paradise.’” According to another report: “No person meets Allaah with these two, not doubting in them, and is denied Paradise.”

And it was also narrated from Abu Hurayrah in a lengthy hadeeth that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sent him and said, “Whoever you meet behind this wall who bears witness that there is no god except Allaah, believing in it with certainty in his heart, then give him the glad tidings of Paradise.”

Thus we see that a person’s entering Paradise for saying these words is conditional upon his believing in them with certainty in his heart, with no element of doubt. If this condition is not met the target is not met.

The third condition is acceptance and submission to what these words imply, both in one’s heart as well as verbally. Allaah has told us the stories of those who came before, who were saved by their acceptance of these words from the punishment of those who had rejected them. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

 “(It will be said to the angels): ‘Assemble those who did wrong, together with their companions (from the devils) and what they used to worship,

Instead of Allaah, and lead them on to the way of flaming Fire (Hell);

But stop them, verily, they are to be questioned.

What is the matter with you? Why do you not help one another (as you used to do in the world)?’

Nay, but that Day they shall surrender.

And they will turn to one another and question one another.

They will say: ‘It was you who used to come to us from the right side (i.e., from the right side of one of us and beautify for us every evil, enjoin on us polytheism, and stop us from the truth, i.e. Islamic Monotheism and from every good deed).’

They will reply: ‘Nay, you yourselves were not believers.

And we had no authority over you. Nay! But you were Taaghoon (transgressing) people (polytheists, and disbelievers).

So now the Word of our Lord has been justified against us, that we shall certainly (have to) taste (the torment).

So we led you astray because we were ourselves astray.’

Then verily, that Day, they will (all) share in the torment.

Certainly, that is how We deal with Al‑Mujrimoon (polytheists, sinners, disbelievers, criminals, the disobedient to Allaah).

Truly, when it was said to them: Laa ilaaha ill-Allaah (none has the right “to be worshipped but Allaah),” they puffed themselves up with pride (i.e. denied it).

And (they) said: ‘Are we going to abandon our aalihah (gods) for the sake of a mad poet?’”[al-Saffaat 37:22-36]

 So Allaah has made the reason and cause of their punishment their arrogant refusal to say Laa ilaah ill-Allaah, and their disbelief in the one who brought this message, so that they did not negate what this word negates and they did not affirm what it affirms, rather they said, arrogantly denouncing:

 “ ‘Has he made the aalihah (gods) (all) into One Ilaah (God — Allaah). Verily, this is a curious thing!’

And the leaders among them went about (saying): ‘Go on, and remain constant to your aalihah (gods)! Verily, this is a thing designed (against you)!’”[Saad 38:5]

So Allaah showed them to be liars and threw their words back at them through the words of His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He said (interpretation of the meaning):

“Nay! he (Muhammad) has come with the truth (i.e. Allaah’s religion — Islamic Monotheism and this Qur’aan) and he confirms the Messengers (before him who brought Allaah’s religion — Islamic Monotheism)”[al-Saffaat 37:37]

 Then He said concerning those who accept it (interpretation of the meaning):

 “Save the chosen slaves of Allaah (i.e. the true believers of Islamic Monotheism).

For them there will be a known provision (in Paradise),

Fruits; and they shall be honoured,

In the Gardens of Delight (Paradise)”[al-Saffaat 37:40-43]

In al-Saheeh it is narrated from Abu Moosa (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The guidance and knowledge with which Allaah has sent me is like abundant rain which falls on the land. Some of the land absorbs the water and brings forth much grass and vegetation. And some of (the rain) falls on another part of the land which is like a smooth plain and does not hold the water, so no vegetation grows. That is the likeness of the one who understands the religion of Allaah and benefits from that with which Allaah has sent me, so he learns and acts, and the likeness of the one who pays no heed and does not accept the guidance of Allaah with which I have been sent.

The fourth condition is following that which is indicated, as opposed to not following it. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And whosoever submits his face (himself) to Allaah, while he is a Muhsin (good‑doer, i.e. performs good deeds totally for Allaah’s sake), then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold” – i.e., Laa ilaaha ill-Allaah – “And to Allaah return all matters for decision”[Luqmaan 31:22] 

What is meant by “submitting one’s face” is following, when one is also a doer of good and a believer inTawheed. Whoever does not submit his face to Allaah and is not a doer of good has not grasped the most trustworthy handhold. This is what is meant by the following aayah (interpretation of the meaning):

“And whoever disbelieves, let not his disbelief grieve you (O Muhammad). To Us is their return, and We shall inform them what they have done…”[Luqmaan 31:23]

According to a saheeh hadeeth, the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “none of you truly believes until his desire is in accordance with that which I have brought.” This is the ultimate meaning of following.

The fifth condition is truthfulness, as opposed to lying. This means that one says it (Laa ilaaha ill-Allaah) sincerely from the heart, with harmony between what is in the heart and what is said on the lips. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

 “Do people think that they will be left alone because they say: ‘We believe,’ and will not be tested.

And We indeed tested those who were before them. And Allaah will certainly make (it) known (the truth of) those who are true, and will certainly make (it) known (the falsehood of) those who are liars, (although Allaah knows all that before putting them to test)”[al-‘Ankaboot 29:2-3]

And He said concerning the hypocrites who spoke these words falsely (interpretation of the meaning):

“And of mankind, there are some (hypocrites) who say: ‘We believe in Allaah and the Last Day,’ while in fact they believe not.

They (think to) deceive Allaah and those who believe, while they only deceive themselves, and perceive (it) not!

In their hearts is a disease (of doubt and hypocrisy) and Allaah has increased their disease. A painful torment is theirs because they used to tell lies” [al-Baqarah 2:8-10]

In al-Saheehayn it is narrated from Mu’aadh ibn Jabal (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “there is no one who bears witness that there is no god except Allaah and that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger, sincerely from the heart, but Allaah will make him forbidden for the Fire.”

The sixth condition is sincerity, which means that actions are free from any element of shirk. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Surely, the religion (i.e. the worship and the obedience) is for Allaah only [al-Zumar 39:3]

“Say (O Muhammad): ‘Allaah Alone I worship by doing religious deeds sincerely for His sake only’”[al-Zumar 39:14]

 In al-Saheeh it is narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The most deserving of my intercession are those who say Laa ilaaha ill-Allaah sincerely from the heart or from the soul.”

 The seventh condition is love for this word and for what it implies and indicates, and love for the people who act upon it and adhere to its conditions and hate whoever or whatever goes against it. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

 “And of mankind are some who take (for worship) others besides Allaah as rivals (to Allaah). They love them as they love Allaah”[al-Baqarah 2:165]

 Allaah tells us that those who believe love Allaah more, because they do not associate anything with Him in that love, as is done by those among the mushrikeen who claim to love Him but who also take others as rivals to Him whom they love as they love Him.

In al-Saheehayn it is narrated from Anas that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No one of you truly believes until I am more beloved to him that his son, his father and all of mankind.”

In this video , Abu Umar refutes the sick fantasies of Butros of sleeping with the dead . watch and judge yourselves .

In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

This here , is a video done by Abu Omar the researcher about the fabricating father Zakariya Butrous and his lies about Abdullah the son of Abbas God be pleased of him . I only did the translation , I repeat , I only did the translation . In this episode , we see Zakariya Butrous doing a load of ridiculous mistakes :

1 – He tries to attack Islam through a book that defends it .

2 – He doesn’t understand a question and so his answer is in a complete different direction .

3 – He fabricates and misquote words .

4 – He fails to read correctly .

5 – He makes a joke of himself .

So , here’s the video , and you be the judges .

Note before you read this , you will find vulgar words and insults from both me and the editor 3 in Faithreedom.org . I , as Islam teaches me , will admit my mistake and learn to be a better person . I also apologies to the readers for any disturbing terms coming from me . I assure it will not happen again – God wills – But the question is : Would you do the same editor 3 ? Or maybe you will keep on insulting us and our prophet and spread your hatred ? It’s up to you . Every child of Adam is a sinner , and the best of the sinners are those who repent .

Almost four days ago , I was surfing the internet . I passed by this site named faithfreedom . I heard about it and about its  owner ( Ali Sina )  . When I saw the front page , I was not very surprised how disrespectful it was . so I sent this message to them . ( I repeat , I regret the language I used on that time . It will not happen again )

The ******* called ( Ali Zina ) I just saw the main page of your site and noticed how hateful and disrespectful you are ( Not to mention how childish ) And I ask you : Do you  really think that this is a way to invite a Muslim to your faith ? Maybe you think that Muslims are like you people , have no problem when someone insults their mothers with the filthiest terms . But you should know this . With this hatred of yours , you only make us more assured that our faith is right . Because when lowly scums such as yourself assault us , it is  a proof that we’re on a different path than your , a correct path . And no peace to the criminals .

The next day , I got a reply , I actually forgot and deleted it . You can get the picture from this reply of mine .

“Trash talk is trash talk. This is what you are doing.”

It depends on what you call trash talk . I personally see that ribaldry and using vulgar and lowly terms and having absolutely no respect to others is trash talk , so , do you compare all that ( Which is something you do every day ) to what I said ? I simply told you that you’re acting childish through making contests such as ( Draw Muhammad ) and all . And it only makes us Muslims more assured of our faith . And I say it while not ashamed of saying , these doings of yours make people hate you more . And please , before you go and say ( A Muslim admit that they promote hatred ) and all that repeated scenario of the ill western media , you should know that hating someone doing a crime is rational . And your crime is lying and being disrespectful and extremely rude

“We criticize Islam because it is evil.”

That’s your personal opinion . And truth stands clear . As it stood out many times through the ages .

“We have a challenge on our site to prove us wrong. Prove us wrong and you can make $50000. This is no joke. We are serious about it.”

Of course you’re not joking about it , you’re LYING about it . Osama Abdullah alone proved you wrong on many occasions and you never deleted any of your lies on your site . But what do we expect from the enemies of Islam ? That is how you do ever since it started and this is how you’ll do until the day of judgement . The funny thing ( And I quote from Osama ) that your site asks for donations to keep running , so how on earth are you supposed to pay 50,000 dollars to who proves you wrong ? ( And actually , you were proven wrong many times )

“If you show us we are wrong, Ali Sina, and all of us editors and volunteers for this site will revert to Islam.”

I find myself saying ( شفيق يا راجل !! ) which in case you didn’t know means that what you said is so hilarious and you expect me to believe it ! If I prove you wrong for once , you will ALL revert ? I doubt that ONE of you would . So spare us the challenging tone . It has no place in reality .

“So, what you got to lose. Below is a link to our challenge. We accuse Muhammad of being a **** , a **** , a ********** and many other “good” qualities.”

Well , in normal situations , I would have my time to lose since I won’t come out of this except with mocking and disrespect of the likes of you . But a good thing I see in doing so is to show the usual reaction you’ll make when proven wrong and lying .

“You can ask Ali for a free pdf version of his book.”

No thanks , I’d rather not waste my time reading some 18+ rated book full of extreme hating terms a street thug would be ashamed of . And “Understand Muhammad” you say ? Give me a break ? I doubt that if I ask this Ali Zina about the name of the prophet’s first son that he’ll know . And then he claims he understands him ?

“I am Editor 3 for FFI”

Usually , I wouldn’t care , but now that I know there is more than one liar in the group , then I guess I do need to know who I am talking with .

“I am willing to discuss any of those accusation with you”

And I am prepared for that as well , but with three conditions :

1 – Respect each others’ faith and beliefs

2 – A claim must be backed up with evidence

3 – You make a point about Islam once and I make a point about your faith once , IF you’re Christian .

“Be prepared for the bitter truth Mr. Zberma.”

The only truth I see coming is the usual reaction of the enemies of Islam . And keep this tone to yourself I said . And by the way , my name is “Zabarma” not “Zberma” so I really wonder how do you have the nerve to make a claim of “Grammatical mistakes in Quran” while you can’t read !
“Truth can be stranger than fiction”

Indeed . The strange truth is that there are people who have absolutely no dignity that they keep their articles after they were refuted over and over by more than one person .

So bring forth your proof if you are truthful .

Here , I have some comments to make :

Firstly , he boldly says ( We criticize Islam because it’s evil ! ) And you see through it that he careless if he harms the feelings of Muslims who read his articles . Is that a way to prove yourself right editor 3 ? And if you say “I am right and you are wrong !” then what’s the point of making conversations ?

Secondly , I’m serious . If you can’t keep your site without donations , then why do you risk with making a challenge of 50,000 $ ?

Thirdly , I remind you , insulting the prophet peace upon him is a greater crime than insulting a Muslim personally . So if you want to make a conversation , respect that .

Fourthly , I never heard of a stable fair person who left his religion and then started cursing and insulting it . So either these people need treatment or they were not Muslims to begin with .

Anyway , I got this reply

No one was successful in proving us wrong. You are imagining things.

Here is and example

Muhammad was a ********. Below is some evidence (there is much more hadiths on this matter). Its not from us. Its from authentic Islamic sources. Can you tell me why I am wrong when I say Muhammad is a *****. That **** man was 53 years old when he slept with Ayesha (she was 8 yrs and 9 months old):

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
Narrated ‘Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65
Narrated ‘Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that ‘Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).” what you know of the Quran (by heart

So I sent this

“No one was successful in proving us wrong. You are imagining things”

In this case , you are either ignorant or a liar , so choose one of them , you filthy scum .

Here is a link to Answering Christianity :

http://www.answering-christianity.com/faithfreedom_rebuttals.htm

We are no Christians . We don’t believe it when somebody says ( The sun is green ) We ask for proof for everything . We are the nation of proof .

“Here is an(d) example”

Muhammad was a ******. Below is some evidence (there is much more hadiths on this matter). Its not from us. Its from authentic Islamic sources. Can you tell me why I am wrong when I say Muhammad is a ******. That ***** man was 53 years old when he slept with Ayesha (she was 8 yrs and 9 months old):”

First of all , it only shows me how lowly and filthy you scums are . Your site was not made for scientific purposes . It was made just to act like a bunch of ***** . So don’t think that putting (Mr) in everyone of your garbage bags you call answers will make me overlook your insults to our prophet . That’s what we are , we’re no cuckolds . On the other hand , you people don’t have a problem if someone calls your mothers (b****) but it would be a huge problem if someone call you (idiots) . So keep that to yourselves . And now , let us see what you view as evidence while it only looks bad in sick mentalities like yours .

“Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:

‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64

Narrated ‘Aisha:

that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65

Narrated ‘Aisha:

that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that ‘Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).” what you know of the Quran (by heart)’”

And I say Yes , he married her at the age of 6 and she was only admitted to his house at the age of 9 . So what’s the problem ? Here is a page of my blog where I refute this sick claim . If you act lazy and refuse to go through it , I’ll sum it up in this letter

http://anticlaims.wordpress.com/2012/05/18/the-marriage-of-muhammad-peace-be-upon-him-and-lady-aisha/

1 – We are not forced to prove she was happy with her marriage to you . YOU are the ones forced to bring your proof if you’re talking the truth

2 – For God’s sake , why did not he contact with her until she was 9 ? Why did he await three years ? You might say “He awaited until she was matured enough for sexual contact” and if you say that , you blow your claim with your own foul mouth . Because you admit that she was an adult and not a child ( As I’ll prove soon )

3 – It actually shows your ill minds when you object about this marriage . Because once you hear the word “Marriage” you think about sex . If someone say “Club” you think about a night club . If someone say “Pole” you think about pole dancers . That’s what you perverts are raised on in this *************** .
And you still have the nerve to object ?
4 – If you had a shred of knowledge ( And you clearly don’t ) then you would have known that a girl at the age of FIVE had a child ! So how can she have a child while she’s still a child huh ? And here’s the link so that you don’t say I throw a claim without a proof , I told you , we are the people of proof unlike you

http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/medina.asp

Oh , and another scientific link showing that girls can become mature at the age of EIGHT , let alone nine

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/924002-overview

5 – I CHALLENGE you and all your doomed hearted friends to bring ONE objection from our prophet’s enemies about this marriage ! NONE have objected ! no Arabians , no Africans , no Persians , no Romans . None at all ! And now you scrawny pitiful excuse of human beings think you outsmarted them all and found a killing mistake they didn’t find ? How pathetic . So either you say that the whole world was of child molesters and make a joke of yourself , or admit that you’re wrong and give me that 50 thousand dollars . And since I know that you don’t even have 50 dollars in your bucket , I think you’ll go with the first one .

6 – You also object about the difference in ages . And I say , eat dirt . The difference in age has nothing to do with the deal . The greatest damage that can be caused by it is that the wife might get disturbed a little , so I CHALLENGE you to bring ONE telling by her that she was not overjoyed with her marriage

7 – In the book you call (Holy Bible) we see that a man can marry a child of THREE ! So who’s the pedophile now you scums

8 – For God’s sake , would a child molester remain unmarried until he reaches 25 ? Would he remain without visiting what you call (playboys) ################## ? would he marry for the first time in his life a woman who’s FIFTEEN years older than him ? would he remain unmarried after her until someone suggests that he marries another ? Would all his wives except one be widows and old women ? Have you no shame ?! You criminals !

9 – I ask you , you don’t mind if a man marries a man , or a man marrying an animal , so how do you have the nerve to object here ?

In the end , I have two things to tell you . Firstly , if you have anything to say then TRY to refute my article on my blog (Above) . And secondly , have some courage and defend your faith , Christian ! Or maybe they only teach you to throw claims in church ? get this , we are not in a church . We speak with evidence . If you don’t have evidence , your place is in a *********** . And no peace to the criminals

I would like to make another comment here :

He says nobody was able to prove them wrong . And I really don’t know what to call these articles if they are not refutations :

http://www.answering-christianity.com/faithfreedom_rebuttals.htm

So either you refute them , or you are afraid to admit you are wrong . And really , did he answer ANY of my nine points ? Clearly , no . He did not mention any of them . That is no way to make a conversation ! If you just claim you are right without revealing what’s wrong about your opponent’s evidence then that’s no argument . You should learn this fact .

After that , I got this message

there is no need to use bad language. I treat you with courtesy. Please return in same manner.

When I say Muhammad is a ******, my intention is not to insult you. I am just stating a fact. You may reject my claim and start using some links as if they have an answer. It seems you admit that Muhammad married her at six and slept with her when she was 9 lunar years (that is 8 years and 9 months in our age). Here you have a 53 year old man sleeping with a child. You seem to be happy with that, that is fine. You clearly admit it. So, Muhammad is indeed a *****. There are actually tons of Hadiths supporting my claim here.

I would appreciate it if you stop using links. Let’s discuss it, you and me. Links do not prove anything. When I have an argument or a claim, I prove that myself from Islamic sources (Qur’an, Hadith, and Sirat). I think it is fair enough to ask you to do the same. And lets keep other religions out of your attacks. here we have a Muslim (you) and an Ex-Muslim (me) discussing things in Islam. Let’s leave other religions alone. My problems is not with Christianity, Hinduism or any other religion. My problems is with Islam and Muhammad. I hope that you will stick to the arguments I provide. You are welcome to use authentic Islamic sources. Links just have articles and claims. I would like you and your mind to discuss things in a polite manner with me and my mind. This is fair for both of us.

This is me , Akahoshi11 , and I deleted this part because it’s an attempt to run away from my rebuttal to another claim without answering anything . And it was full of vile terms . If that editor sees this page and claims that I’m hiding something – And the fact is that he didn’t publish our conversation – Then he should bring a picture proving this . The same thing I’ll do at the end of this article .

Next, i will prove to you that Muhammad was an *******

But let me hear from you first. Thank you

Editor 3

Then I sent this

“there is no need to use bad language. I treat you with courtesy. Please return in same manner”

Liar ! YOU are the one who gave absolutely no respect to my prophet . And now you show us these crocodile tears of yours thinking you would fool me ? We’re not Christians I told you , we don’t believe whatever anybody tells us . So talk with respect if you wanted any . It is ridiculous how that a thug would attack someone on the street , and when the man beats the thug and injures him he goes to people shouting that this man harmed him ! And I told you already , using words like “Please” and “Mr” will not fool me . I saw your type and I know what you hide behind these masks . So don’t waste your time .

“When I say Muhammad is a Pedophile, my intention is not to insult you. I am just stating a fact”

No , you’re stating a LIE . Let us see what does Pedophile mean from dictionary.com

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pedophile

“an adult who is sexually attracted to young children.”

And clearly , she was not a child as I proved to you . There are women who would become mature at age of FIVE . And I showed you a proof from a non-Islamic source so that you don’t object about it . And you should drill this into your thick skull : For a Muslim , when you insult our prophet you insult a billion and a half person on this Earth  . We’re not cuckold like you . We care . And keep this in mind , I have pictures of all these letters . I will not hesitate to upload them and reveal your disrespect and vulgar language and running away through lying and fabricating . So speak with respect if you want it .

“I would appreciate it if you stop using links. Let’s discuss it, you and me. Links do not prove anything”

Aha ! So you’re running away ! Links don’t prove a thing ? Gimme a break you liar ! Links are essential in arguments to prove things from trusted sources . And I brought you clear evidences from Non-Islamic sources so that you don’t whine about me bringing them . How on Earth are you supposed to prove anything without a link to a trusted source . But now that you turned 180 degrees upside down for your hypocrisy , I’ll bring you proof from both sources . Here , we see how well he used to treat her and how she admits that he treated her well

عن الأسود قال : ( سألت عائشة ما كان النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم يصنع في بيته ؟ قال : كان يكون في مهنة أهله، فإذا حضرت الصلاة يتوضأ ويخرج إلى الصلاة ) رواه مسلم و الترمذي

وعن عائشة رضي الله عنها قالت : (( كان يخيط ثوبه ويخصف نعله ويعمل ما يعمل الرجال في بيوتهم ))  رواه أحمد

قال عليه الصلاة والسلام : (( خيركم خيركم لأهله وأنا خيركم لأهلي )) سنن الترمذي .

So as you see , this is a simple proof that she had no complains about her marriage , and the third Hadith shows how he cares for his family and orders others to be good with theirs .

“And lets keep other religions out of your attacks”

Oooooh ! So you just want to attack my faith while I defend it ? You through an ill claim after another and I refute it ? Are you so coward that you can’t defend your faith ? Or maybe you’re ashamed of it ? ********************* . This is no conversation , you make your claim and I make mine , and each one defends his faith with proof . Can you ? Or maybe that’s too hard for you .

“here we have a Muslim (you) and an Ex-Muslim (me) discussing things in Islam. Let’s leave other religions alone”

Liar ! ANYONE can clearly see that you were never a Muslim ( You wish ) but rather ########## . We got used to these games of yours Christians . You refuse to say what’s your religion so that you are not embarrassed by it . You are ashamed of it . Because each page shows a crime and blood shedding and rape … etc . So defend your faith if you have any courage . Christian .

“Links just have articles and claims”

Are you blind ? I brought you a link from MY blog , and I had trusted resources with it . And don’t go saying ( You must only use Islamic resources ) because I know and everyone know that once you find something that doesn’t support you in Islam you will immediately say ( Hey ! You can’t argue with Islamic resources ! ) I told you , these games of yours are exposed .

“I would like you and your mind to discuss things in a polite manner with me and my mind”

Me ?! Who was the one that started trash-talking at the first place and showing zero respect ? It was clearly you . The thief says that stealing is bad . how absurd .

“Now let me go to another claim”

NO ! You will NOT go to another ill claim you learn in church ! You will stick with the first one and admit that you were wrong or try to refute what I brought . THAT is how it goes . And I still didn’t ask you about the crimes in your Bible . So don’t think I would be fooled by these games you missionaries play . I went through them and I can know a Christian from his smell ! You reek of lies and hatred . Your pattern of speech is exposed and anyone can figure out who you are . So I will NOT discuss this other foul claim from you until you admit you were wrong about objecting about the marriage or try refute my evidences that she was not a child as you claim . And after that I will ask you about the rape and crimes and blood shedding in your Bible and you will either admit that they are true or try to refute them . That’s how it goes . Not with the childish games you play .

Remove the mask Christian ! I know who’s behind it

Here I make a statement that HE was the one to start with bad language . Now , I won’t claim I didn’t , but the one who starts the fire carries the most of the mistake , right ? In the whole conversation , it went with the example of a man fighting for good against a man fighting for evil . But , because the first one acted rashly , he made his argument lose its value . Now , I am not saying this editor had an argument , no I swear ! You would need a lot of training to say his arguments are rational with a straight face .

After it , he doesn’t want me to bring links ! If we don’t bring links to trusted sources then our conversation would be a load of empty claims which anybody could say they are right or wrong according to their liking . And the links I brought were to clear a scientific fact . Would you want me to bring such a thing from Quran of Hadith ? It is normal for a person to reach adolescence at the age of eight as proven in the link . So that means it doesn’t give a place for his objection to start at the first place . Because he claims she was a child , and I proved to him medically that 9 years could be the age of maturity at some people . So either he brings a source saying she was a child – And he didn’t – or say that he doesn’t agree with the marriage because it doesn’t meet his personal opinions .

Then he sent this

you need to clean your language, or you won’t get a response back.We both agreed that Muhammad slept with Ayesha when she was almost 9 years old. To you, this seems okay. To me this is *******. You are happy that a 53 years old man is sleeping with a 9 years child. To me, this makes Muhammad a **** man and a *********. We can stop right here on *******. I’ll publish our correspondence if you like, and the readers can tell if Muhammad is a ********** or not. Fair enough.As for sources, you certainly are welcome to use Qur’an, Hadith and Sirat to support your claims. I do the same. What I object to is you using links to articles written by some Muslim website in trying to show that my claims have been answered. This is an easy escape. I can do the same. So, lets stick to Islamic sources and rely on ourselves. The issue of ******** is done between you and me. You certainly expressed your view and gave examples such as a 5 year old gave birth making it okay to sleep with a 4 years old child. You presented good Muslim thinking. I tried to present my view. We can publish our discussion on ******** and let the readers be the judge between us. Fair enough. Your accusations about me being a Christian is how you Muslims think. Lets say I was the Pope or I was the most atheist person in the world. this does not change the strength of my argument on *********. But you Muslims love to Hate the Christians and Jews. That is fine, but it is still the case that a ******** is a*********.

Now, I supplied you with evidence that Muhammad was a *****. You may claim that I am attacking you or your beliefs. That is not my intention at all. When someone is a *******, I’d like to be able to call him a *****. i am trying to express a fact. You may not like that, but that is how I see it.

We can discuss that or I can just publish our emails about ******** and let the readers judge what you and I said.

Let me know Mr. Khalid. And please be courteous in your language. If you keep your bad manners in your emails, I will stop responding, and our conversation is done for good. Its your choice. Let me remind you, you were the one who contacted us. We did not contact you. If you want the communication to continue, you need to clean up the way you write in your emails. Else, you won’t get a response, and our conversation is done.

Have a good day

Editor 3

So I  sent this one

“you need to clean your language”

Really ? the ones who show the most vulgar sick terms on their site have the nerve to say ” Clean your language ” ? how ironic ?!

“or you won’t get a response back.”

And when did you respond to begin with ? all you did was running away from a claim to another . and I told you , I have pictures of these emails and I’ll upload them on my blog and other sites once this is over to show the world that Faithfreedom is a site built on irrational hatred .

“You are happy that a 53 years old man is sleeping with a 9 years child”

LIAR ! LIAR ! LIAR ! oh .. LIAR ! I NEVER said she was a child you LIAR ! I brought you proof from trusted scientific sources that a woman can become mature at the age of FIVE . But as expected , you ignored all that . Now I CHALLENGE you to bring me any kind of proof that she was a child as a nine years old . I want a CLEAR hadith saying the word “Child” and don’t bother , you will never find it , LIAR !

“To me, this makes Muhammad a ***** man and a *******”

Now who needs to clean his language you pig ?! The likes of you should be caught and they should shove sh** through their throats .

“I’ll publish our correspondence if you like, and the readers can tell if Muhammad is a ****** or not. Fair enough.”

No . You will either refute my evidence that you were wrong ( And lying ) or admit that you were wrong , and spare me the crap of (50,000 $) I’m not a child to be fooled with it . And please , you’ll publish our correspondence ? I CHALLENGE you to upload all what we said ! You’ll definitely delete what you like and keep what you like . Me on the other hand , will upload full pictures of what happened here to show the whole world your lack of respect and upbringing . And I’ll allow the readers , Muslims or not , to judge who’s lying and deceiving others .

“What I object to is you using links to articles written by some Muslim website in trying to show that my claims have been answered”

Now , you are either : 1 – Blind 2 – Pretending not to see 3 – An idiot who reads these articles and fails to understand what they mean . So choose one of them LIAR ! I brought you a link to MY blog . Don’t you know what does (MY) mean ? Do I have to teach you English now ? My blog means my blog ! And ALL the articles in it have been written by me . that means when I bring you an article from there , I am answering your claims with my own words . Can’t you understand that ?! And you say “Articles written by Muslims” ? I suppose that dictionary.com is an Islamic site ? I suppose that all these rebuttals to your ill claims on answering Christianity are mirage ? I suppose that snope.com is an Islamic site ? I suppose that medscape.com is an Islamic site ? Get serious ! get back from this Lala world of yours where you’re always right ! Reality is different , and the truth is bitter . I brought you links of trusted Islamic and non-Islamic sources , so try and refute what I brought if you can .

“This is an easy escape”

Ha ! The escape artist talks about escaping ?! Well then , “One who never escapes” I want you to refute all these refutations on Answering Christianity and prove that you’re not wrong

http://www.answering-christianity.com/faithfreedom_rebuttals.htm

I want you you to refute MY article in MY blog , which was done by MY hand .

http://anticlaims.wordpress.com/2012/05/18/the-marriage-of-muhammad-peace-be-upon-him-and-lady-aisha

I want you you to bring ONE proof that lady Aisha wasn’t happy with her marriage . ONE proof that she was a child .

I want you to give me an answer about the five years old girl who had birth of a child , and you can find the article on Los Angeles Times.   16 May 1939

I want you to give me an answer about this scientific study which proves that girls can reach maturity at the age of 8

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/924002-overview

I want you to tell me why didn’t he peace be upon him marry until he became  25 years old . Why did he marry a two time widow ? why are all his wives old widows ? Tell me

I want you to defend your faith , Christian . All you did was running away and ignoring my answers . So tell me how come you don’t object about your book saying that you can marry a 3 years old

I want you to reply to my evidence that she was happy with her marriage

I want an answer to ALL these points which you cowardly ran away from . So come on , bring your proof

“Your accusations about me being a Christian is how you Muslims think”

No , it is just the way you Christians do , You Christians are the ones who throw an ill claim after another while hiding behind the mask of Atheism . You do all this so that we don’t embarrass you with the crimes of your book And you should know , when you say that you’re an Atheist , you make things worse . Because when you say that , you agree to sex with animals , with gay people , with dead people , and children as well . An Atheist has nothing banning him from doing anything . An Atheist can kill in order to satisfy his desires and there is nothing banning him . So don’t think hiding behind Atheism would save you .

And in the end , I have seen your true ugly face . And I got what I need to expose your swamp you call a site . And I was the one who contacted you ? For God’s sake ! YOU are the ones who took huge flags and shouted “We challenge all Muslims !” so did not you expect a respond to your odious smells ?

I will upload the pictures of these emails and show the whole world what faithfreedom is actually like . You can delete anything I said refuting you and your other pig friends in that barn . Die in your rage . Islam is spreading and it will fly over  your hands full of dirt
عليكم لعائن الله يا مجموعة من المجرمين المنحطين  الديوثين المتآمرين ملتهمي ال****

Here , I want you to note how he lies and tries to deceive others that I agree with sleeping ( sex ) with children ! That’s a clear lie ! How could he misunderstand me ? I say “She is not a child” and he says “You agree to sleep with children” I’m really speechless ! What am I supposed to say in order to make him understand ? And how on earth would a person having a child be a child ?! Have not I told you these people go against all rules of common sense just to justify their hate ?

And after that , he says he will publish the conversation , and so far , he didn’t ( If I just didn’t notice it then please inform me )

Moreover , he claims that the sites I brought are Islamic . So he’s saying the medical site I brought is actually a fake one made by Muslims to deceive people :) You be the judges .

As for me accusing him to be a Christian , that’s because he and his friends follow the ways of missionaries .

1 – They insult Muslims by saying “Worshipers of Satan ! You will go to hell ! There is no hope for you ! You are evil !”

2 – Atheists focus on what they think are “Scientific mistakes” but Christians would attack our prophet and accuse him of doing this and that .

3 – From my experience , Missionaries have the habit of escaping answering the refutations by going to other claims to try and make it look as if the Muslim never answered . And that’s what he does .

4 – An Atheist hates all religions and attacks them all . He may hate Islam more due to the bias of the media . But he will still attack other religions . On the other hand , they only attack Islam . Not just that , but he defends ALL other religions and praise them and even worship them . Is that an Atheist ?

Then he sent me this funny attempt

our correspondence is over. Please do post on your blog. I plan to post on FFIHere are 2 hadiths for you to ponder about. Ayesha was playing on the swing and playing with dolls after Muhammad “married” her, if you can call this a marriage. Is her behavior that of an adult person? Anyway, you are a rude person Mr. Khalid. No more emails from here.

Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 41, Number 4915,
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu’minin:
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr’s version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151
Narrated ‘Aisha:
I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah’s Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for ‘Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)

And my answer was

“Ayesha was playing on the swing and playing with dolls after Muhammad “married” her, if you can call this a marriage.
Is her behavior that of an adult person? “

Ahahahahahahahaha !! Oh my God ! I couldn’t stop laughing at your stupidity ! Oh , oh , oh … ( Take breath ) Ok , she was playing on a swing , so what ? are all these people on swings (Children) ? or what

http://mnprairieroots.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/tire-swing-1.jpg?w=614&h=409

Are they ALL children ? Dude , spare yourself the humiliation ! If you say such a thing in public they would show your picture in the news for a week with ( The biggest idiot in history ) under it XD I challenge you to claim that all these people are children . Even your followers would see how naive you are !

“Anyway, you are a rude person Mr. Khalid. No more emails from here”

Oh ! I’M rude ? I’ll let our readers judge who’s acting like a ***** . Speaking of **** , I found these pictures on Internet and I’m not sure which one of them is you , so tell me

http://www.victorschueller.com##############

http://midwestresearchswine.com###############

http://www.kingofpork.com############

http://www.ultrafeel.tv################

Thanks for the laugh anyway

In the end , I apologize . Not to him or his site , but to the readers because my language was bad . I learned my mistake and desire to become a better person . I wonder if he would do the same , or keep his offensive hateful posts and fabrications about Islam and Muslims .

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Through the entire history , and in every culture , women had no identity except during the prophets’ times . aside from that , they always saw all kinds of mistreatment .

Greeks

Women were seen as impure creatures brought by the devil . They were treated as properties which one can buy and sell in markets . She had no right to have a thing of heritage or act as she pleases with her money ( If she had any ) And Socrates says : “The existence of women is the main reason for the fall of humanity . The woman is like a poisonous tree , it looks beautiful , but once someone eats from it , they die right away” .

Romans

They used to say about woman “Her curse is unbreakable”  And among the horrible things in their history is what they used to do under the motto of “Women have no soul” as they used to spill boiled oil on them and tie them to pillars , yet worse , they used to tie them to the tails of horses and run with them until they die .

Persians

Persians were a nation of warriors , therefore , they preferred males over females because they were the ones to go on wars . And a woman was absolutely under the control of man , he could sentence her to death or be “generous” with her and allow her to life . And during periods , they were seen cheap and unworthy , which made them keep women away from houses during them . Moreover , they used to see that touching a woman during her period is an evil omen .

Indians

They used to say “Storms , death , hell , poisons , snakes , fire , they are all not worse than a woman” and Mustafa Assabai says : “In the faith of (Mano) women had no right to be self governing , if her father dies , then she must be given to a relative man . And she didn’t have the right to live after the death of her husband , she was burned with him the day he dies . And that remained until the 17th century . And they used to be sacrificed to Gods to please them” .

Jews

The father had the right to sell his daughter if she’s a minor . And would never have a part of the heritage unless if she had no brothers . And the situation didn’t differ a lot from the other cultures . The girl belonged to her father , and when a person comes and pays her dowry , she becomes his property , which means it is a property contract and not marriage . And she used to be inherited after the death of her husband . And if she feels that her period is edging near , then she is declared impure even if there are no appearing signs . And a man cannot touch her , nor give her a thing or take a thing from her , and she cannot sit next to him on the same table , and can’t ride the same cart with him or sleep with him on one bed .

Christians

The first ones were shocked with what they saw as moral decadence among Romans , and declared the woman the cause of it . And declared he the origin of the sin and evil because she is what got Adam peace be upon him from paradise . Therefore , she was not allowed to speak in a church , and if she wanted to ask about a think then she must ask it from her husband in house only .

The church deemed marriage as an impure thing , which made many men stay unmarried or reveal their marriage .

The church also banned divorce at all costs , the farthest thing one can do is to stay away from his wife until death parts them .

After this I want to ask : Do you really believe that other cultures and nations treated women better than Islam ? If this isn’t enough , another proof will come if God wills .

God knows best .

Islamophobes : Everything Arabian is EVIL !

I noticed that many people on the internet who have an Islamphobe also have an Arabianphobe , and I don’t mean that they hate Arabian people , no , they even hate Arabian words themselves ! And I noticed that they have many wrong ideas about the meanings of many words , so in this post , I’ll explain some of that .

Jihad (جهاد)

This word is on top of the Arabianphobe list , when people hear it , they think that it means “Holy War” like that of Christians , and the bias media is saying this word whenever we hear of the so called “Islamic terrorism attacks” ( Which always has nothing to do with Islam ) to support that claim . But this word is the source of the verb “Jahada” which means “He struggled” therefore , Jihad means “Struggle” . But what kind of struggle ? Well , all kinds of it that is . Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him taught us that obeying parents ( As long as it’s not a bad thing they’re telling us to do ) is a struggle because one is struggling the devil who tries to take him astray from the path . learning is also a struggle because one is struggling with himself to keep on learning and ignore the distractions . Having patience when ill is also a struggle because one is struggling the pain and illness . As for the war struggle which the media is trying to give a bad view of , it is to struggle against the enemies of God and ours who begins fighting us . And I have another post here with Quran verses proving that we are not allowed to fight the disbelievers unless they start fighting us . And if it wasn’t enough for you , tell me and I can give you links to better articles .

http://anticlaims.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/crystal-clear/

Kafir (كافر)

Once , a Muslim have asked a question on Yahoo Answers and it was ( Almost , I can’t remember exactly )

“What are the questions a non-believer would ask about Islam?”

And one have asked

” According to dictionary , Kafir is an insult , so why do you call everybody like that ?”

And honestly , I NEVER thought that somebody would be tricked to such a level ! Kafir is the name of somebody doing the verb “Kafara” which means “He covered” and when it comes to religions , it means to cover his eyes from seeing the truth of that religion to embrace it , to put it simply , Kafir means “Disbeliever” , is that an insult ? no it isn’t . But with such an irrational unjustifiable campaign to corrupt the picture of Islam it would make sense .

I noticed many Christians hating to be called “Disbelievers” . And if you ask them why they tell you they believe in God , if you ask them if they believe in Islam or its prophet peace upon him they tell you that it doesn’t matter because they believe in God ! So tell me : Do you believe or disbelieve in Islam ?! And would you really call me – who doesn’t believe in your faith that Christ peace upon him was crucified – a believer ?!

Hadith (حديث)

Some people think that Hadith is only stories about the prophet peace be upon him . But if you had any knowledge of Arabic , you’d understand that Hadith comes from the verb “Haddatha” which means “He told” , so simply , Hadith means “Tellings” or “Sayings” And that goes to the sayings of anybody , but with the many usage of this word in telling about the prophet’s sayings , it became common for people . And they have a whole science of this even before Islam appeared , they track and investigate the chains of the people telling these sayings to know if there the one telling so met with the person he claims he heard it from or if there is someone well known for fabricating in the chain , or that there is someone known for his weak unstable memory in the chain … etc (i.e. Someone once claimed that he heard a saying of a poet from a certain person who knew that diseased poet , but he was found out to be a liar because the person he claims he heard the saying from have died before he was even born !)

Dawah (دعوة)

I’m sure that everybody knows that when a Muslim wants to tell somebody about Islam in order for him to embrace it that it is called “Dawah” . And strangely , some people believe that it means “Brainwashing” ! And away from the source of this word and its history and all , you can go to google translation and type this word دعوة  and you’ll get the meaning “Invitation” in the box . It simply means to invite people to Islam , and that is by fine saying as God said {Invite (The People) to your God’s way with wisdom and fine maxim and argue with them with what is better (Of sayings) }

Imam (إمام)

I don’t lie if I say that I don’t know of people who have a bad meaning for this word (Yet) but just to let others know , Imam is simply the one who leads the prayer . Just to make sure somebody doesn’t come up with a new rumor like (Imam is the one who does sorcery) or whatever

Aora (عورة)

There is a saying of the prophet peace upon him which says ((المرأة عورة)) . Roughly translated (The woman is an aora) . Now , some individuals who have ill desires when they read about Islam immediately take a weird course to give this word a meaning far from what it really is . The word “Aora” in Arabic means what a modest person covers , therefore , any parts of the body Islam orders to cover are “Aora” . And since Islam orders the man to cover up from the knees to the belly then that is the man’s private area . And since Islam tells women to cover their whole bodies but hands and eyes – There are different sayings about the face which are not for me to discuss – then the whole body of the woman is a private area . No problem so far , right ? Well , for some people there is a huge problem . When they hear the word “Private area” they immediately think of the reproductive organs which causes serious mistakes in understanding . And as they follow that line of thinking , they come to the conclusion that Islam says the woman is a tool of lust ! Thankfully , a little knowledge of meanings can spare us such mistakes .

God knows best

Note : This article may be updated whenever I find anything new

After easing somewhat , I saw that my language in this post was vulgar ( Not as vulgar as theirs , but still vulgar ) and so I decided to update the post . And now , I mention my experience with the forum named ( CEMB ) whose sole purpose is to attack Islam . The funny thing is that the most of that forum are Atheists , but we don’t find them talking about any faith but Islam ( With lies of course ) . And the reason is clear for everyone .

Aboody

In the beginning , I had an argument ( I can’t really call it an argument ) with an extremely vulgar one named Aboody . He’s the most ill minded , unstable , ignorant person I have ever seen ( Actually , he’s the second , I met another one named Tdsomething and he was far more foul mothed than him ) . Everything he has is cursing and shouting and mocking and insulting . And through that he thinks that everyone hears him and non else . Just like a fly thinking that its sound is giving an earache to all the livings on Earth , or a dog barking to harm the clouds in sky . He told me that everyone there was a Muslim and then saw the “Light” . 5 minutes later , I told him that I once had doubts about my religion and that I wouldn’t leave it just because of some claims . Then he said that they got bored of such claims of “I once hated Islam but then embraced it” . Did not he just say “I once used to be a Muslim but then I saw the truth” ? Who is repeating the scenario now ? He kept mocking with a bunch of other sheep following his command . He called me a “Late bloomer” and a “Kid” and other things . And I really don’t see what is the problem if a person reaches puberty lately ( Not that this is my case ) or if he’s a kid .  And anyway , it just shows us that he has no amount of knowledge , so he does what he can , to repeat all the foul words he hears on the 18 rated movies he watches  . Anyway , an argument with such a person is a waste of time . Because he doesn’t just miss the morals , but also the knowledge about anything . And if you want to see how vulgar he is , see the comments on this post .

The terrorist

To be honest , I don’t remember the name of this person . All I could remember is that he has an avatar of a man carrying a heavy arsenal of guns and rocket launchers … etc . And it’s really funny how that they call us terrorists . Anyway , the argument I had with him was about this verse in Quran

21:30 Have not the ones who disbelieved see that heavens and Earth were a joined entity then we cleft them asunder and from water we made every living thing do not they believe

And his objection was that Earth did not exist during the big bang and therefore it is a critical mistake – Exalted is our lord from the claims of  such people –  And I’ll be honest and say that I didn’t know the answer to his claim during that time . But now that I know , the answer is that only an ignorant would understand such a thing from the verse . It says that both heavens and Earth were one joined entity , and then the contents of that entity started parting away from each other . That , is very accurate according to the big bang . But the problem is that he was also a ribald one among the members of the swamp , not as vulgar as Abood , but still ribald .

The hypocrite , Yeezeevee

Among all the ones I saw on that forum , Yeezeevee was the most filthy . He had ZERO respect . He mocked and insulted every holy thing in Islam without any sign of feeling sorry . to those who can read Arabic well , you have the link below to see his saying with pictures as proof , and see his other friend جندل accusing me for being “Disrespectful” .

http://www.eltwhed.com/vb/showthread.php?47347-%E3%CB%C7%E1-%E1%C7%D3%CA%E3%C7%CA%C9-%C7%E1%E3%E1%CD%CF%ED%E4-%E1%E1%D8%DA%E4-%DD%ED-%CC%E4%C7%C8-%C7%E1%CF%ED%E4

If you can’t , I’ll summarize what he did :

1 – He mocks me and tries to say ( I’m afraid for your safety because you live in Saudi Arabia , they might kill you if they know that you’re talking with a disbeliever ) to give a bad picture of Islam , but I’m not to be fooled by him

2 – I ask him why he objects for the marriage of lady Aisha to the prophet peace be upon him ( Refutation here  ) he says : ( Because its stupid and insane ) really ! such a scientific discussion you’re making !

3 – When I told him to watch his mouth , he saw that I did a huge crime ! of course , all that trash talk he makes with his friends is ok because it’s ( Freedom of speech ) but when I say ( Watch your words ) it is a crime !  All the crimes against Islam ( Burma for instance ) are freedom , but when we defend ourselves , it is a crime and we’re called terrorists ! And he simply said that I have three choices ( 1 – To surrender from the discussion 2 – To ask “Politely” to stop their trash talk 3 – To laugh at it ) And I see to you  , we’re not reptiles like you . We won’t laugh when a group of immodest individuals such as yourselves go on and insult our prophet , to a Muslim , it is a greater crime to insult his prophet than insulting his mother .

4 – He calls the writers of Hadith ( Who sacrificed their lives to keep the correct tellings of the prophet peace be upon him ) as morons ! Oh ! Where’s the politeness now ?!

5 – When I proved to him from Hadith that lady Aisha was happy with her marriage , he turned upside down and refused all Hadith ! And I SWEAR to you that you’ll find him attacking Islam through it later . It is the hypocrisy we are used to from the enemies of Islam .

Misconceptions about the so called “Verses of Violence in Quran”

It is indeed a common routine for us Muslims to be accused for terrorism wherever we go , whether it is in the west or on the internet . Whenever a Muslim does wrong and go against his religion’s teachings , the media would immediately view Islam as a religion of violence . But a question comes here : Does Quran really promotes hatred and violence ? The answer is , Absolutely not ! And these verses are more than an enough proof to it .

2:190 ” Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.

8:60 ” And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged. ” 8:61 ” And if they incline to peace, then incline to it [also] and rely upon Allah . Indeed, it is He who is the Hearing, the Knowing. “

60:8 ” Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity. ” 60:9 “ It is only as regards those who fought against you on account of religion, and have driven you out of your homes, and helped to drive you out, that Allah forbids you to befriend them. And whosoever will befriend them, then such are the wrongdoers. “

2:256 ” There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing. “

109:1 Say ” O you disbelievers 109:2 I worship not what you worship 109:3 “Nor will you worship that which I worship. 109:4  “And I shall not worship that which you are worshiping. 109:5 “Nor will you worship that which I worship. 109:6 For you is your religion, and for me is my religion.

So as you saw , these are crystal clear verses showing the mercy of Islam . But still though , God said : 41:26 “And those who disbelieve say: Do not listen to this Quran and make noise therein, perhaps you may overcome.”

God knows best , peace .

The marriage of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and Lady Aisha

All thanks to Allah and peace and blessing upon his mercy to the worlds , prophet Muhammad and upon his family and companions .

This article addresses a widely spread misconception about Islam that is probably the first thing Islamophobes spam when they preach their doctrine of hate , the marriage of prophet Muhammad peace upon him to the mother of believers Aisha may Allah be pleased of her . The lying enemies of Islam make the claim that she was a “child” when she got married to the prophet peace upon him . And their source of objection is the following narration :

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236:

Narrated Hisham’s father:

Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married ‘Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:

‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3311:

‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.

And in this article – Allah wills – there won’t be anything for a phobe to use .

1) Can a female mature at the age of 9 ?

It is a serious misconception among the majority of people that a person doesn’t mature until 16-18 years old . I would like anyone who reads this to ask their grandparents about the age of marriage in general on their time or their near ancestors . It wouldn’t be surprising to hear that it might range from 8 to 15 years old which are all younger than the legal age of marriage in most countries . And since I know a lot of stubborn individuals will say something like “You lying Muslim ! What’s your evidence ?!” I’ll bring you some western sources :

In the Arabic version of “Description of Egypt” by Chabrol de Voivic , first volume , page 30 it says (Roughly translated from the Arabic translation)

We shouldn’t be surprised about such early marriages in such an area where the weather works on inducing maturity and agitate desires at an early age

Note : Different editions may differ in the page number

And the Medscape website says about puberty :

Precocious puberty refers to the appearance of physical and hormonal signs of pubertal development at an earlier age than is considered normal. For many years, puberty was considered precocious in girls younger than 8 years; however, recent studies indicate that signs of early puberty (breasts and pubic hair) are often present in girls (particularly black girls) aged 6-8 years. For boys, onset of puberty before age 9 years is considered precocious. 

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/924002-overview

And this is about Menarche :

Menarche usually occurs about two years after your breasts develop (thelarche) and between 4 and 6 months after the growth of your pubic and underarm hair. The age of menarche in most North American women is around 12 or 13, though your first period can come anytime between 9 and 16, depending upon your height, weight, and cultural background. Early menarche is occurring more and more – girls as young as 8 have been known to get their periods. This is referred to as premature menarche.

http://www.epigee.org/menstruation/menarche.html

And the following is a picture of a newspaper about a 9 years old Thai girl giving brith :

As you can see , the hospital says she’s healthy .

And this is about a 9 years old girl from Nicaragua getting an abortion after being raped :

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nicaragua-shaken-by-childs-abortion/

Keep in mind : I’m not mentioning this because I approve of what the man did . It doesn’t require a genius to tell you that rape is a serious crime in Islam . I just mentioned this to show that people do mature earlier than 18 . I said this because I KNOW there are individuals with twisted mentalities who have no shreds of honesty and will probably misquote me to make it look like I approve of rape . And after all this bolded text , if I actually see that happen , they’d be lowlier than I imagined .

And from this page on Wikipedia :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_majority

You see the ages of maturity differing from country to country and you can see that UK and USA differ in it even inside the same country !

And for the record , in Judaism it says :

Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl

And in Christianity – I quote from the following site – :

It will not be without interest to recall here, unreliable though they are, the lengthy stories concerning St. Joseph’s marriage contained in the apocryphal writings. When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James (the Less, “the Lord’s brother”). A year after his wife’s death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age. Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates; a miracle manifested the choice God had made of Joseph, and two years later the Annunciation took place.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm

So what does all that mean ? It means puberty doesn’t HAVE TO happenat 18 , 16 , or 15 years . It differs from area to area and person to person .

2) What does Islam say about the age of marriage ?

Simply put , there isn’t a minimal age of marriage in Islam . Now hold it ! Before you jump the gun and misquote me here , read the whole thing .

What do we mean by marriage ? To make it simple I’ll quote Wikipedia again :

Marriage (also called matrimony or wedlock) is a socially or ritually recognized union or legal contract between spouses that establishes rights and obligations between them, between them and their children, and between them and their in-laws.

So clearly , marriage is not just about sexual intercourse as some would like to think . In Islam , it is possible to marry youngsters – with their approval of course – if there is a benefit to them from that  . However , maturity and physicall capability are of mandatory for any form of sexual intercourse . That is why the prophet peace upon him waited 3 years until lady Aisha was mature enough .

3) What proof do you have that lady Aisha was an adult at the age of 9 ?

It’s kinda hilarious when I hear – or read :) – someone say this . I already demonstrated how a female can reach puberty as early as 6 . And I did mention that it’s mandatory in Islam for the sopuses to be mature and capable of sexual intercourse to go through it . So unless someone proves that the mother of believers Aisha may Allah be pleased of her was not an adult , I’ll treat this as a joke and ignore it .

Oh , and after all of this , if someone is going so lowly as to say she’s a child because of playing with swings and dolls , here’s a gift .

It’s just a movie ? Then what about this ? :

“Nah , Indians are [Insert racism here]” ? What about this ?

Here’s a simple fact : Physical and mental maturiy have nothing to do with dolls or swings .

4) Does ANY charecteristic of child abuse match with this marriage ?

Let’s see what child abuse is :

the engaging of a child in sexual activities that the child cannot comprehend, for which the child is developmentally unprepared and cannot give informed consent, and/or that violate the social and legal taboos of society.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/abstract.aspx?ID=137961

And now let’s look at them one by one them one by one :

the child cannot comprehend

Obviously wrong since an adult does comprehend sexual activity .

for which the child is developmentally unprepared

After giving all those sources , it’s clearly wrong that an adult is unprepared .

and cannot give informed consent

As just said .

and violate the social taboos of society.

Considering that nobody , and I mean NOBODY objected on this marriage until the last century – last two centuries maybe – , it’s safe to say that it is wrong in this case .

And I’ll conclude with saying that if someone abuses a law , it doesn’t mean the law is wrong . Because if true , we should abandon traffic signs and lights since there are so many who break it . And that’s the same with Islam . If someone acts against its teachings , Islam is not to blame .

Allah knows best .

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